Grateful Dead Live at Thelma Theater on 1969-12-12
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- Publication date
- 1969-12-12 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Soundboard, Scott Clugston, Charlie Miller
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 1.3G
Cold Rain & Snow, Me & My Uncle, Easy Wind, Cumberland Blues, Black Peter, Next Time You See Me, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Turn On Your Love Light, Hard To Handle, Casey Jones, Mama Tried-> High Time, Dire Wolf, Good Lovin'-> Drums-> Good Lovin'-> I'm A King Bee, Uncle John's Band, He Was A Friend Of Mine, Alligator-> Drums-> Alligator-> Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks)-> We Bid You Good Night
"We Bid you Goodnight" theme during "Alligator"
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Song Title | Versions | Compilations | Covers |
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gd69-12-12 t01 Cold Rain & Snow | |||
gd69-12-12 t02 Me & My Uncle | |||
gd69-12-12 t03 Easy Wind | |||
gd69-12-12 t04 Cumberland Blues | |||
gd69-12-12 t05 Black Peter | |||
gd69-12-12 t06 Next Time You See Me | |||
gd69-12-12 t07 China Cat Sunflower | |||
gd69-12-12 t08 I Know You Rider | |||
gd69-12-12 t09 Turn On Your Lovelight | |||
gd69-12-12 t10 Hard To Handle | |||
gd69-12-12 t11 Casey Jones | |||
gd69-12-12 t12 Mama Tried | |||
gd69-12-12 t13 High Time | |||
gd69-12-12 t14 Dire Wolf | |||
gd69-12-12 t15 Good Lovin' | |||
gd69-12-12 t16 I'm A King Bee | |||
gd69-12-12 t17 Uncle John's Band | |||
gd69-12-12 t18 He Was A Friend Of Mine | |||
gd69-12-12 t19 Alligator | |||
gd69-12-12 t20 Drums | |||
gd69-12-12 t21 Alligator | |||
gd69-12-12 t22 Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) | |||
gd69-12-12 t23 Feedback | |||
gd69-12-12 t24 And We Bid You Good Night |
Notes
Notes:
- Thanks to Rich Gastwirt for the Dat
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to the host of folks responsible for the shnid10988 soundboard sources a)(MSR > 1 Reel gen > 1 Cassette gen > Dat) which supplies "Cold Rain & Snow", "Me & My Uncle", "Easy Wind", "Cumberland Blues" and "Black Peter", as well as the b) MSR > 1 Reel gen > Dat > CD source which supplies the final 15:45 of the show
- Tape flip in "Black Peter"
- Tape flip in "Good Lovin'"
- Tape flip in "Turn On Your Lovelight"
- Left channel has some sporadic level issues in the MSR > 1 Reel gen > 1 cassette gen source (first 5 songs), most notably during "Me & My Uncle"
- "And We Bid You Good Night" theme during post drums "Alligator"
Mastered by Scott Clugston
May 6, 2018
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- 2018-05-11 02:25:36
- Identifier
- gd1969-12-12.141917.sbd.composite.gastwirt.miller.clugston.flac1644
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
- Run time
- 191:32.42
- Transferred by
- Scott Clugston and Charlie Miller and Rich Gastwirt
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Thelma Theater
- Year
- 1969
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Reviews
Subject: Good Rule of Thumb - Dont Trtust Mind Wondrin
You can be certain of this though. The highlight of this show is in the Alligator and Caution. There is other good stuff, though this show isn't right for everyone. It is a bit of an outlier in 69.
But not the Alligator & Caution. These are as dripping with primal psychedelia & explosive energy as you will find coupled in one segment. Especially the Caution, It is 24 minutes and 8 min in I had already jotted down, "enough here for a hard 10 already."
Subject: Brief summary of the three shows at Thelma
Subject: Last tiny
Last two shows of six, in three days, which was essentially the last time they played a tiny room. They next played in L.A. County at Thee Club, (in West Hollywood, on Santa Monica Blvd); which, though not tiny, was still less than 1000cap. Thelma was also a West Hollywood address, and was just a room, not a theater. It was two doors down from music mecca Whiskey a Go Go, and the Dead must have been wondering why they weren't loading-in to that club! You'd think they were too big by then to play this room, but LA always treated them strangely, and this may have been a vanity booking (no promoter/no chance of profit). It's hard to find info on this venue because it lasted the last two months of 1969 and was then gone. Plus, early ads give a wrong address (across the street from The Viper Room). Before Thelma it was The Galaxy; before that it was Little Hungary/Gypsy Music. They turned the house between the early and late shows. Live/Dead was being promoted at the time, and one commenter said that a woman from WB had a box of new LPs and was handing them out. I guess there was no merch table back then! Records were cheap, too. Well, all of LIFE was cheaper. The previous night is the better of the run - as others have noted these shows aren't particularly standout, just GOGD.
Early Show. The first couple are average '69 & GOGD. Easy Wind settles into a groove halfway, then completely loses tempo. This is one of the greatest early versions of Cumberland Blues (along with 12/31); so earnest. Black Peter is tight but too spare, and because it is vamped-out it's one of the longest versions. The SBD has a cut @3:02 of 43secs; it's complete on the official. Next Time You See Me starts okay, then the tempo gets stuck right in the mud, paying it no favors. China Cat is an example of the '69 style - mostly straightforward but with a couple of biting Jer leads [Leads? They got us working in shifts!]. Lovelight is episodic, stitched with lots of serious vamping (waiting for Pig, who is not as inventive this night). There's a reel flip @27:47. At 28: 36 the official release cuts to 12/19 Old Fillmore for 1:45, missing 25secs of the SBD.
Late Show. Hard to Handle is drummer's soup, un-tightening the band. They get it back some over the next few. High Time is a very quiet version, as overtly mellow as most of this night. Dire Wolf is a version sans drummers, but with Pig on tambourine. On Good Lovin’, the SBD has a reel flip @4:55. The official release has an edit @3:57 where it switches to 12/29 Boston for 1: 27 (missing 58secs of the SBD). Uncle John’s Band is just the second one, and they're already jamming on it. Just a Hand to Hold is a relatively concise version. Phil starts a Dark Star but it doesn't go and they agree on Alligator. The first part loses its energy but, post-Drums, the second part is better. It has a Goodnight Jam @15:26. Note that this is a 30min Alligator into a 23min Caution. This Feedback is actually a good version, as is the final Bid.
Early Show: C
Late Show: C
Overall (both) = 2½ stars
Highlights:
Cumberland Blues - earnest
SOURCES: The 141917_sbd_composite_gastwirt_miller is a composite of the best sources, re-pitched and balanced. The early show is a tad fast, needing -1% pitch correction. The gerland_10988 has the complete tunings. Dave's Picks 10 has both shows, except for edited versions of Lovelight and Good Lovin'.
Subject: organ on Dire and UJB
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